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Posted - 2012.07.26 04:23:00 -
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WELL.
1. Get stuff 2. FIGHT!
I think CCP wants us to experience more of 2 and less of 1. ALL of us. Not just the guys that went and grabbed the Happy-Fun-Forever passes.
Jeez. -.- What's with you all trying to stop people from having fun?
And, I guess you guys overlooked the sig radius changes to the Procurer/Skiff and Retriever/Mackinaw too. |

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Posted - 2012.07.30 09:44:00 -
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'Grats everyone on this thread making it past 100 pages!
I doubt new miners find out that they need a 30k+ EHP tank until they're deep into mining skills first. In-game tutorials and such really only tell them about belt rats, which hit as hard as kittens. Even when they do find out, they have a whole week of buying and training skills before they can actually fit a decent tank. They're sure to hear about the amazing mining yield of the Hulk before hearing about needing that tank too.
Oh, did we all somehow overlook that fitting a tank involves awareness of needing said tank and requires points in fitting and tanking skills?
Sigh. I remember back when you needed to **** someone off to get ganked.
Then again, this is EVE. What they don't know powers our one-button bacon machines.
With the barge changes, I guess Mining can stay in the list of beginner career choices. |

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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:36:00 -
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I think they need to bring the tank of the Exhumers up a few more notches. We still don't know what the Destroyer rebalancing and beyond will bring. |

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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:48:00 -
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Anvil44 wrote:Hypercake Mix wrote:I think they need to bring the tank of the Exhumers up a few more notches. We still don't know what the Destroyer rebalancing and beyond will bring. This sure sounds like troll to me...however, I will bite. What destroyer rebalancing are you referring to? I haven't heard of anything to change what was done not too long ago. The more I think on things, the more I would like to see being able to buff exhumers by choice as opposed to such a huge jump on the inherent tanks. They did need some improving for sure, (excluding Hulk) but doing too much of it for the miners is not right. Give them the good base that a nice solid ship should have (it should be strong and bulky by nature, able to stand up to a fair bit of damage by sheer bulk) but nothing too extreme. Then perhaps give them special bonuses for PowerGrid and/or CPU bonus when using specific types of modules, much as the latest BCs have it with their BS sized guns. So a miner can choose between maximum yield or that great tank...or a nice balance.
The whole Tiericide thing? They're going up from Frigates and slowly making every ship worth flying? The thing where they're thinking of splitting Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills into separate racial skills? The possibility of having more T1 Destroyers exist in the future? |

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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:13:00 -
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Anvil44 wrote:Ah that skill split off. Don't see that specifically as causing buff nor nerf. Possibility of future destroyers happening? Well, that's the same as saying they are thinking of coming up with more exhumers. No details = no worries. If they were saying "we're looking at another destroyer designed around using medium sized guns - perfect for high alphas" then I would be worried. As it is now, there is too little information to worry about or to allow one to begin designing some sort of 'ship design response' to deal with this perceived threat.
If they're designing the EHP of Hulks, Mackinaws, Covetors, and Retrievers around suicide ganking, while designing the Skiff and Procurer to survive fights in low-sec and beyond, the appearance of a medium gun destroyer would mean having to redo the those EHP numbers again, requiring CCP's math squad to set aside work-hours to essentially redo something they just recently did. IF the EHP was designed around suicide ganking. But yeah. Doing something and then redoing shortly after is bad design and wasted resources that could be better put to use say... making Orca's fully scanable. |

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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:36:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:okay okay tbh I don't really have much pity for people that don't train any core skills and fit 2 expanders and 2 cargo optimizers. A new player with a set interest in mining approaches your mining corp. Do you tell him that he needs to make a choice between being useless or being a liability for a month?
I know it's an extreme case, but it sucks when you can't convince people to keep playing EVE for these reasons. |

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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:56:00 -
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MIrple wrote:they can fly a covetor until there secondary skills are up to par. There are always other options for players. Hulk and Exumers are the end of the road mining ships. You are not supposed to fly them in a few weeks It was an example of the past. |

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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:23:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Omg they surgically removed the best part of the OP. it isn't even a fairy tale any more. Of course I wasn't literally calling miners "pigs" it was an analogy!!! Now I want to blow my head off too, just like Jim Era. Hmm... the first post is kind of lacking now.  |

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Posted - 2012.08.03 21:02:00 -
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Uh oh... thread is running out of gas. Hmm...
Guess miners will now be PAYING gankers to get rid of other miners... and all those betrayal shenanigans too.
And... I just spoiled the surprise  |

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Posted - 2012.08.07 23:02:00 -
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I'm expecting an increase in mining barge/exhumer suicide ganks this month. |

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Posted - 2012.09.07 21:23:00 -
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Could use a Skiff to find targets. No one would suspect a Skiff with a passive targeter and ship scanner until they read this post. Maybe can even bump with nanos and crafty AB usage. |

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Posted - 2012.09.08 06:43:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:So how much is a skiff right now? I'm assuming you mean the skiff would apply the point to prevent the miner from leaving?
If that is the case, then enjoy having that skiff corded. Not cost effective. And if I were a miner I'd be ready to leave as soon as some entered point range...that is just prudence.
Of course not! It's just to gather intel, as ganking can be team PvP activity. The greens scout out for potential targets and lead the reds to the prey. Hell, brush up to the unsuspecting miner and have the dessies warp to zero on you. |

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Posted - 2012.09.08 07:31:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Funny how some people still think that tanked Skiff can't be ganked...
Can be. Rarely is it ever worth the effort. |

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Posted - 2012.09.08 08:04:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Get ganker friends and effort required is smaller. Rarely is it ever worth the combined effort.
Could get 5 buddies and gank 5 Mackinaws and get 5 hate-mails or gank 1 Skiff and get one "GJ" in local.
Edit: Though, I could be overestimating the way people fit their Skiff. Mine doesn't undock without an AB. |

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Posted - 2012.09.08 09:11:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:I've tried to fit MWD. Not enough PG. Here ya go.
[Skiff, Mario Kart] Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
10MN Digital Booster Rockets Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Domination Warp Disruptor [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Ancillary Current Router II Medium Ancillary Current Router II
w/ both Geno implants and 6% PG implant. |

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Posted - 2012.09.08 15:07:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Explain exactly how you can make a profit (or break even) ganking a Skiff. Keep in mind that profitable (or at least break-even) ganking is the only thing that allows industrialized ganking, which is the only thing that provides any significant risk to the HS mining fleet. SkiffGuy gets ganked by a few Tornados. SkiffGuy: *totally racist British accent* Good show ol' chaps. You're the first to successfully gank my tug-boat 'ere. *gives 500mil to gankers* I say, I applaud that jolly good show!
Well... that'd probably never happen. Maybe if you caught a Skiff on a gate that was sitting there all day and two gank attempts already happened on it and it's on fire from sitting in low structure and you found out it's got a bunch of deadspace mods on it. That probably wouldn't happen either.
Whatever. Casual high-sec mining is for when you feel a need for mystical space-zen meditation or those "how the heck did we run out of ammo" moments when your hauler guy went afk looking for his cat six hours ago. |

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Posted - 2012.09.09 05:27:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:If you want a meditative experience devoid of risk, you should have to use the Skiff which actually sacrifices something for it's safety. Right now, the Mack is strictly better, so why would you bother? Because it's fun kiting around my own mining drones as they struggle to bring rocks to me. |

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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:20:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:The Skiff/Procurer have gotten pretty speedy. Procurers are not speedy. |

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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:30:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:250 m/s for a mining barge isn't half bad. Of course most miner scrubs probably don't have Navigation V, but that's hardly CCP's fault, is it? Skiff's base speed is 200m/s. Procurer's is 90m/s. It's like, the #1 reason I fly Skiff over the other barges. |

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Posted - 2012.09.10 23:04:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ah, that's what I get for assuming the Proc had the same base speed as the Skiff. To be honest I think slower barges are better, so that you can mine webbed + aligned at 75% speed and you'll be in range of the roids for a really long time. It strangely kept its base speed from when it was a Mercoxit ship and can effectively fit and use an AB because of that... well, effectively ignoring the bad things about mining at 650m/s. |
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